These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Patricia and Mark McCloskey, the St. Louis homeowners who pointed guns at protesters, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to weapons and evidence tampering charges. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. Look into it. Patricia Owens called her ex-husband Yaser Said the devil for allegedly murdering their two daughters at his trial in Dallas on Aug. 4, 2022. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! Rest in peace Joann and Alex. I would have liked better her being put to death! Blasczyk said she is pleased with the outcome of the case. Not everything is a conspiracy. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. Dance defense. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. "I'm not sorry we were caught. Just saying. Nailed? I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. She took out the woman who replaced her. Then international law enforcement was contacted. I really never thought of it again.. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. Judge Chika Anyiam sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Why wouldnt they let any of her witnesses testify? She definitely did it. During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. Patricia Kopta, Pittsburgh street preacher missing since 1992, found alive in Puerto Rico A woman who was missing for more than 30 years has been found alive and at After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. And the fact that Patricia called Andrew even after he married someone else didnt mean she was still carrying a torch for him, according to one of her friends. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? According to court documents, Patricia Owens, the victims mother and Saids former wife, told authorities that her son and Yaser Saids brothers indicated support for the killings and were not cooperative with law enforcement. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. He was captured in August and is in state custody. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! And shes were so happy. Dial-a-problem. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. DNA also doesnt lie. Yaser Abdel Said, 65, was found guilty of the 2008 capital murders of his daughters, Sarah Said, 17, and Amina Said, 18, according to the Dallas Morning News. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. Am I missing something? DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. This is all BS.She did it. Yassein and Islam Said face up to 30 years in federal prison. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Jenkins was a teacher at St. Johnsbury Academy. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. One on one? That woman has no soul. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? Said showed no emotion as the verdict was read. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. Ms. Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? Police were led to the Prues by a business card found in Jenkins' home for Allen Prue's snow-plow business and a report that the Prues had called Jenkins about trouble with their vehicle. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. 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Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. Theres speculation and theres lies period. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. You murdered your girls," she said. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. Through that testing, the elderly patient was confirmed to be the same woman locally known in Pittsburgh as a street preacher called The Sparrow who vanished and left her family flummoxed. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Patricia Owens, Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. You took my family all in one night," she said. What a contrived case! Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Disagree with The District Attorney got this one right. There are a number of issues in the case, Kelley said in a letter to his associate, Christopher Darden, including the competency of counsel, prosecutorial misconduct and, of course, compelling legal error by the court.. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. "I couldn't believe it," Blasczyk said of the crime. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! WebTexas-born Patricia ("Tissie) Said, formerly of the Owens family, is the mother who lured her two teenage daughters, Sarah and Amina, to their deaths at the hands of their own father Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. (Nope. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said.